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Yeah, but in the UK it's systemic and on a national scale.It would be less obnoxious if they were really good at fighting regular crime, but they are atrocious at that.

So yes, we might not be so dreadful compared to Hicksville, US or some craphole country like India,but that's a very low bar for the police of a G5 nation.

Absolutely go ahead and make sweeping generalisations about the state of the police in the UK. It's all true (except if anyone claims they are systemically racist, or some other clickbaity nonsense).


What exactly are you saying is systemic and on a national scale? I certainly don't think the specific news story we're talking about is typical. That's why it was widely reported and why the Police had to admit their error.

Basically every week there's another story that makes it onto the news about yet another outrageous apprehension. 60,000 arrests or so over the last couple of years IIRC. What's disgraceful is that for years the police whined that they didn't have enough resources because of Tory budget cuts, something which I can personally attest, and then you get this...

100% of the time I would pick the UK police system over the US's.

Would you?

In the UK, they can't force you to speak, but not answering questions can be interpreted as evasion / "adverse interference".

They do not need a warrant to search your phone. Not providing them with a PIN can be a separate charge, with up to 2 years imprisonment.

They can hold you up to 36 hrs if the police decide so. Up to 14 days without charge under modern broad "anti terrorism" laws.


I could find one news story a week about an outrageous arrest in the US, or in many other countries. You don't give a citation for the 60k figure, but I imagine it's the same one that has to be laboriously debunked every time someone brings social media talking points about the UK to one of these threads: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49830776

Congragulations you have just rediscovered conservatism.

…and how to never have any large infrastructure projects like highways or just services that run at a loss while being essential like the EPA

It would be interesting to run the counter-factual on the EPA. Lawsuits around pollution were already increasing significantly prior to the EPA even company vs. company.

Would the resources have been better spent on a more efficient legal system, then leverage that?


*Disclaimer: This definition not valid in American politics, consult your doctor before self-labeling.

I know a third of HN thinks China are good guys, but this is legitimately worrying.

Su Bin stole terabytes of F-35 schematics for China 10 years ago. Given that the "sensitive part" in question is apparently a canopy, I don't know what China would necessarily glean from this.

It just seems like the Pentagon refuses to learn their lesson vis-a-vis protecting their logistics.


That's a word salad.

The first sentence is plain English. The second is clarification through example.

Someone who doesn't know what arbitrary or abstract means, or has trouble with context, I'm sure it can seem confusing.


Obviously, because then you can focus your attention to that specific group.IE, if cable theft is exclusively carried out by white people from kensington then whenever something is stolen, you can just go there and catch the criminals.

Criminals should be locked up in jail.


>I used to work for a large British Telecoms company, that shall remain nameless. They regularly suffered from certain mobile sections of the community stealing metal.

I cannot imagine which entities you could possibly be alluding to;)

>Once the law changed to make it a crime to buy scrap metal without a paper trail that cut that down massively.

No, you don't understand, it's free healthcare and housing they really need.

Seriously, I remember it being an epidemic about 13 years ago or so, I wondered what happened. Banning people from buying stolen metal is such an obvious step that I wonder how the UK government ever thought of it.


I think you mean Sir Francis Drake.

They’re not my words, but yes, you are correct.

Did you say COVID 19?

Happens to be the grifters are mostly pro fertility, make of that what you want.


They're pro-“fertility talking points” at least, but rarely in favor of economic and social policies that encourage child rearing.


I think so too. What strikes me most about "pro fertility" people, particularly the SV type, is that they don't seem to particularly like kids, as in spending time with them, playing with them, deriving joy from them. They seem very enamoured with the kids-as-cogs-in-the-system, with "legacy" with all sorts of other silliness except for the kids as kids.


Yup. Bring up a tax to pay for prenatal, neonatal and pediatric care, for instance, and you’ll separate the folks who care about children from the ones who found a new silly thing to argue about on Twitter.


The asylum system is being massively abused. It's turning people in the UK into single issue voters.


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