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Im surprised about the sentiment in this discussion.

I totally see the problem Terence is describing. We are loosing a lot in understanding and focus if it continues like that. The solution found for Navier Stokes doesn’t have much „real value“ - but what almost always happened in the past when people worked on the difficult problems, these sparked new ideas / new theorems that broadened our knowledge. Think back at your grad studies, figuring out a proof as homework was hard, sometimes incredibly hard, but while doing it we gained a lot of understanding how things work. Now asking AI for the solution and „just“ getting it, risks our understanding, our creativity and our ability to connect the dots with other territories. I see it in students nowadays, there is much less understanding, much less creativity in finding solutions. I truly think this „short-path“ solution with the „death of struggle is one of the biggest risks with AI already for human development


His complaint is a very weak argument.

If the complaint is about AI just giving answers and not good understanding around them, or frameworks that lead to more solutions from them, then that means there is a gap that can be filled by human mathematicians.

So all the AI has done has actually made mathematicians lives easier and provided them with an opportunity to fill that gap. They should be using it to do that, instead of complaining.

In fact, I would bet if this gap were not present, it'd be an even worse complaint: Now we have absolutely nothing to do in the field.


You have a point, but I think a concern is that the environment in which to fill this gap is threatened since the unsolved problems have functioned as a guiding lighthouse and measure of progress. Frankly: will someone pay for mathematical research to understand things we already have proofs for?

Some people are just out there doing automated math proofs for reasons. If you want understanding, value, and edification, that is on you, not them.

Sadly my 14 pro has a crack in the lower right screen, and the tele lense has some issue with fixing lens position / focus (? I hear some clickering and it doesn’t focus). Otherwise I would just stay another few years with it, now I’m going to upgrade - and yeah I’ll stay with Apple. I have some devices quite a few years old by them and still working flawlessly.

> „… it will actually be possible to cure most human disease in ~5-10 years, as crazy as it may sound to ordinary people …“

Nothing beats the hubris of the Silicon Valley CEOs and self proclaimed “elite”. I’m missing people calling out “we are better than that”… NOT


I think this is an important article that provides a framework how to think and navigate what’s happening.

What upset me a bit were phrases like “This is not a slogan. It’s a framework” which immediately devalued the work for me.

I have read so much Ai generated text recently, that I developed some AI-fatigue or AI-burnout, and I’m wondering if that might hit more fields - making more humans reject Ai work.

To be clear, I still like the text and I don’t know if it was written (partially) by Ai or not - but it’s this uncanny feeling I got reading it.


> phrases like “This is not a slogan. It’s a framework” which immediately devalued the work for me

Why? Because it resembles the typical "You're not just implementing a text editor, you're reshaping the text editing landscape"?


I've had this exact feeling about the article. I partly switched off after that paragraph


But did it end up being valuable and survive this offence?


why is that more important to you?


Because substance trumps style?


If it is a common AI pattern, I wonder why the developers haven't taken measures to circumvent tells like that. Unless they keep them there on purpose as like a signature or watermark.


I am starting to seriously consider switching my pi-hole from blacklist to whitelist; block everything except few domains. I am convinced now most of the text I read is either ai generated, or people who wrote it have been influenced by AI so much that they write like it.

I cant read this shit anymore.

"creating cross functional AI evaluation team to keep the company honest"

Fucking garbage.

I have an old book between me and the keyboard, and just read it while the AI is thinking, so I can read non AI words.. otherwise its like reading books by the same author over and over and over again.

I will go touch some grass now.


But why using an encoder model instead of a BERT based model? For a pure classification that should be easier to train and work quite well


I hope Europe does this for real. I’m wondering how this privacy nightmare is eroding our standards so easily.

I certainly see the potential use of such - but the risks coming with such glasses at least in my opinion outweigh these uses..

Pleas, EU, ban this! Iirc there are already spy cams banned anyway in Germany, this should fall into the same category


The EU (i.e some EU politicians) is considering regulating them, not a full ban


I’m wondering if their internal name is “Sophon” for this “feature”…


This feels actually like a pretty safe bet for Google, they secure the compute in case it works (I doubt that the described volume will be available in the near future), while if SpaceX doesn’t manage to provide there is not much loss. I see it more as another way of blowing up SpaceX valuation on paper…


Thank you for that - I’m definitely going to look into it. I realize that I lost the fun in coding. I’m in a different career stage now as well, but just seeing this reminded me of how I started a long time ago implementing snake, learning about graphics mode, double buffering / page flipping etc.

Everything felt exciting and so close to really understanding what’s going on. And just seeing the blue text interface reminded me of how much fun that was…


I am glad to hear how the project resonates with you and other people here. I was reading an article about coding in the 90s and thought, the best time I had was on our first computer. Starting out with Basic, Pascal, Assembly and C++. Text mode, VGA mode, INT 10h ... what fun


I think this is a super important point. Working on ai I’m really wondering where this will actually end in the case of our media consumption, AI is being used to generate more engaging content, this will imply ai will be almost a requirement to stay visible, so more ai will be used. In the end little to no “real content” will make it through.

Will there be a moment where people will leave social networks to get “real content” again? Will that be safe from AI optimization then?

Are we seeing the start of the demise of social media?


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