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if you had the information to do the task perfectly then those open models should be fine no? if so, your just paying for knowledge at that point.


Yah that's my point.


Maybe write “I don’t think I need them. The models we have are good enough for me.” instead then


What do you think I am arguing?


That we don't need better models because they're good enough for our work


I understand why you drew that conclusion from my post, but that's not what I am arguing in the context of this thread.

The OP said "as soon as an open source model of the capability of fable or gpt5.5 are released it's over because the world will build on top of them" which I took to mean some amazing new level of performance is only able to be unlocked with those models.

I am arguing that the level of performance the OP seems to imply doesn't require fablw level models for the work the OP envisions because the harnesses can actually drive the same performance increase.

There are a few papers that have demonstrated it. And my own use of fable made me feel it was not that big of a jump from opus 4.8 compared to better systems around it.

Its a subtle but important distinction.


Thank you for doing all this. It's appreciated.


You do realise they are doing it for self promotion right?


I mean, yeah. "Person who spends time publishing content online is doing it for self promotion" doesn't seem particularly notable to me. 24 years of self promotion and counting!


Dude it comes across, maybe only to me, as a bit shameless. Or maybe it's just that there are so many people lapping it up like you're doing a public service that I find tedious. I wish hackernews had a block feature but alas it doesn't. Maybe I'll vibecode a browser extension.


I am always outraged when youtube creators ask me to like and subscribe. /s


Not the same at all. For that to happen you would have to explicitly visit their channel (forgive incorrect terminology, I don't use youtube). If someone kept posting on hackernews asking you to subscribe I hope you wouldn't appreciate it. swillison is spamming a communal public feed with self promotional comments about vibe coding, quite obviously because they, like the rest of us, are panicking about not having a career in a few years.


The more time I spend actually working with these tools the less I fear for my future career.

Building software remains really hard. Most people are not going to be able to produce production quality software systems, no matter how good the AI tooling gets.


Conversely, if the models ever make it to the point where they can replace ~all developers we will presumably have achieved AGI or even ASI and all other jobs will also be eliminated more or less simultaneously. So at least we'll all be in good company (and there probably won't be much point to marketing yourself in that case).


Forums traditionally included signature blocks at the end of messages. If someone linked his youtube channel there would that be objectionable? Assuming the preceding message was on point of course.

Posts on HN are analogous to videos on youtube. A channel is analogous to an HN user profile.


I canceled 2 months ago and they keep giving me free pro subscriptions


It's been bad since 2015. All the A.I. companies are in on it now.


Military and intelligence agencies have been involved in Silicon Valley for its entire existence. They were instrumental in helping to create the first computers. The internet was a DARPA project. Facebook sprung up from a failed DARPA project called lifelog. Google received funding from the military industrial complex / intelligence agencies early in its life. These companies have always had a dual-purpose, and I highly doubt the major players in AI are any different.


I wish there was a way to bulk seed the books we DO have downloaded


What if they kept the 'good stuff' from us? Does that seem likely here?



Dev here: Unfortunately, that was one thing I never managed to figure out with WikiTok - content filtering. Wikipedia has no categorization of whether or not their articles are NSFW (imagine how much debate that would require for millions of different articles), nor something I could use in their API. That said, anecdotally, I have found the percentage of rather NSFW articles to be quite low all things considered so it's been mostly fine. I think the best option would be to have a quick disclaimer before your scroll, but nobody has seriously asked me for that.


there's also something weird going on with the posts, i swear i saw the thread change in-between logins.


Reminder: when you are logged out, HN will show static cached content. Since there's no login session it doesn't have to compute parts of the page unique to the user.

When huge stories hit, and HN is overloaded, browing while logged out is the way to get through.


oh k thank you.


on a tangent, how would you solve cat/mouse games in general?


the only way to win, is not to play


yes and China/make money.


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