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Tao et al. are effectively calling for diseases like childhood cancer to remain persistent for longer.

Physics and Biology will see major breakthroughs that WILL fundamentally alter our world. That is one key thing missing from alot of discussion here is the narrow focus on math (or parallels with software engineering). Doing well in math is key to doing well in physics and other sciences.


I can also play that game, You are effectively calling for enabling 24/7 non stop worldwide surveillance of everyone, everywhere all the time.

The big difference is my negative is concrete, possible and enabled in 2026 by GPT Astra while you’re talking about some future which we have no idea, we will ever reach.


Easy game.

Protecting math jobs limits cancer progress even being a choice of what to pursue. You could choose to allow 24/7 surveillance, but why would you? At least with math progress society can choose what to allow from it, but slowing it down universally blocks all choices.


Lmao this guy thinks people ever decided who/what/how much things should be surveilled.

People do exactly that with every vandalized Flock camera.

It sucks that our democracy is really mostly just for show and thus such measures are required, but yes, we absolutely can decide such things if we really want to.


This is "just" an attribution and credit assignment problem. OpenAI could have done vastly better than they did at attribution. They should have spent another $10M just on attribution/credit research to annotate the contributions to the lean and paper and their blog.

Job protectionism for elite mathematicians under guise of caring about student development. The glory of the super smart math person will need to shift to more creative modes, just like art had to handle photography. Attribution is legitimate issue but should not stall progress as it is easy to address via the same research mechanisms that agents already do.

> Job protectionism for elite mathematicians under guise of caring about student development.

Huh. Weird. This hasn't been my take of mathematicians at all. The dozens I know are quite humble and dedicated to math and the beauty one finds in it.


"guise" doesn't mean they don't care. It means they are shadowing their concerns when in reality they have concerns primarily about what AI will do to their success in math and the credit they will receive in the rest of their lifetime -- i.e. their legacy.

Again. Weird. Doesn't jive with my experience. One or two in the dozens I know, sure, but not enough to be a stereotype.

This is related: https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1fiw84a/open_st...

The idea is not silly in my view, I did something similar here: https://github.com/pseudotensor/open-strawberry

The idea is that data generation is required first, to make the reasoning traces. ToT etc. are not required.


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