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A non self sufficient society, where anyone but the richest have to rely on another country for food is a failed society.

Because nobody would publish through them anymore.

Because Valve has zero legitimacy to mandate that anyone changes their software for any reason.

Because this is such an apple-brained, anti developer, anti user move that noone else in the industry does it.

Because Valve mandating that for their own gain would bring in such a gigantic gatekeeper lawsuit.

Because you profiled your code, optimized, then you'd then rely on Valve's "transpiler" to not write back absolute dogshit code back to the users.

Because if it doesn't work well, people are going to blame the video game developer and never Valve.

The list is extremely long, and the only people it would benefit is Valve.


There's no such censorship on TikTok, it's entirely groupthink based on people saying "when I use that word my video is seen less so therefore it's being censored".

Youtube is a lot more guilty of it though, as well as demonetizing.


How is that not a form of censorship? It is direct suppression of certain forms of speech.

YouTube has its problems but I don't think it's had quite as strong of an effect on language.


It sounds like there is a documented policy or proven that TikTok does it. Just people thinking it does leading them to self-censor. Then people see others doing it and copy it. So, I guess it is censorship but not by TikTok.

well_ackshually, tik tok has a well known, long, and rich history of suppressing certain search keywords.

Some things are better left in control of the government _because_ they are dangerous. You either:

* Outlaw gambling, and gamblers will just go towards shadier options, putting their own lives in even more risk.

* Allow private operators whose goal is to extract as much money from possible from gamblers as possible and ensure that you will inevitably have people abusing the system up to the limits to which it can go and testing out if they can go further, over and over again

* Government ran gambling organisations that can ensure they also offer proper systems to wean yourself off, offer healthcare, and make use of the money "made" from operating it to improve your health care systems.

Only one of those options is sensible.

>The operators are just people fighting for their freedom to operate the same business the government operates.

HAHAHAHAHA. No. Absolutely not. Some people are truly as caricatural as movies and books make them appear, and casino owners truly live up to it. I worked for them, for "betting rooms", anything you want: they are thieves, mafias, manipulators and bring nothing but misery on the world. They're not "fighting for their freedom", they have found a legal way to abuse human misery and addictions.


> Government ran gambling organisations that can ensure they also offer proper systems to wean yourself off, offer healthcare, and make use of the money "made" from operating it to improve your health care systems.

Please list any state lotteries that offer any of these things. All I've seen is an 800 number to call, listed in the fine print at the bottom of the advertising. And they advertise everywhere, and though many were established with promises to "fund education" or something that sounds noble, money is fungible so it just gets sloshed around in the state budgets.


"My country that is hostile to public healthcare doesn't offer public healthcare" no shit sherlock, the US's healthcare system is a shitshow. Look at anywhere in Europe where those lotteries are publicly ran. The entire post is about changing the law, that doesn't include closing your eyes on how it's currently shit.

>Tool use is a widely accepted measure of intelligence.

Stop anthropomorphizing the parrot. The parrot has had stockfish's source code blasted at high pressure into its head along with dozens of millions of other pieces of code whose sole role is to have efficient algorithms to more or less brute force through the best result. Brute forcing (no matter how smart it is) isn't understanding the problem domain.


I'm not fully convinced that human beings aren't stochastic parrots. Much of the behaviour I observe in daily life reflects a blind adherence to set of beliefs that are an amalgation of "a person of authority said to do this" at an early age.

>What happens when you ask those same frontier models to write a chess-playing program?

they shit out a carbon copy of https://github.com/official-stockfish/stockfish that they have in their training data. Still doesn't make Fable good at playing chess.


I feel like you're saying something as odd as "Transistors still aren't good at playing chess."

I'm pretty sure Fable could write AlphaZero, which has no lineage in common with stockfish.


I'm not the one posting daily about how "AIs are going to destroy the world because of how smart they are", "humans are finished" and "we've reached super duper mega intelligence". Go see Dario and Sam about that.

>I'm pretty sure Fable could write AlphaZero

If course it does, the paper is open and dozens of open source implementations are in its training data already. It could write AlphaStockfish, or xx_chessmaster_2000_xx, it doesn't matter if it does: it's writing a solver: it's not good at playing chess. If tomorrow I tell you that I'm so fucking good at chess I can beat Magnus, and I show up with a laptop running stockfish, you're going to laugh me out of the room.


So if you need a scratchpad to solve a problem, does that mean you cannot solve that problem?

Here's a crazy idea if you don't want Smart Window to send your data anywhere:

have you tried not using smart window (like you're currently doing)?


The problem is, many of the privacy invading "features" are opt-out, instead of opt-in...

https://privacytests.org/


Those people complain about everything. It's exhausting.

The only people having an expectation of translations being done locally is exactly the nerds that keep whining that it's not using a local model. Every single normal person, when presented with a "translate" button either know it's going online, or don't care about it.

Begging the purists to run away from Firefox at this point so they can stop wasting everyone's time. Your demands for examplarity and whining about money not going ONLY to firefox and jerking yourselves on Servo was not enough, now you want to restrict the browser to owners of an RTX5080 if they want to use it?


> only people having an expectation of translations being done locally is exactly the nerds that keep whining that it's not using a local model

This is an untested assumption in Silicon Valley. I suspect Apple is going to eat a lot of folks’ lunches.


You realize that people that don't care won't even know what Firefox is? Being a niche player and scaring away niche people is the most stupid strategy possible.

Being a small player and throwing away any hope of expanding your user base by building for people who will complain no matter what you do is, well, something!

neglecting existing customers in an attempt to gain larger market share is certainly a play

Ah yes, the customers of Mozilla, who are certainly paying users and not just people whining and saying BACK IN MY DAYS IN THE LAST MILLENIUM IT WAS DIFFERENT.

Get over it gramps, things are changing. Mozilla spent ten years trying to mostly appeal to these people by staying very conservative, and it got them nothing but abuse and harassment from people not realising that staying stuck in the past is a death sentence for Mozilla.

You want to save Mozilla, burn down Google first. The ecosystem in which they are evolving isn't driven by them.


I solemnly proclaim I would pay reasonable money for a browser (Mozilla or otherwise) if their maker would truly try to make the best browser possible and succeed at least partially at it, instead of serving a thousand of agendas none of which is making the best browser possible. The sole reason why I am not Mozilla's customer is exactly that - because they do not see me as their potential customer and don't care about my needs. Of course, they are free to do that but the result is people like me aren't giving them their money. So they have to go to Google.

> You want to save Mozilla, burn down Google first.

Uhhh... 85% of mozilla's revenue comes from Google via the search deal. In a theoretical scenario where a genie waved a magic wand tomorrow and google went "poof", disappearing, mozilla would be in a dire emergency for lack of revenue.


It would. But Mozilla has zero long term survival chance in the current ecosystem. The economics are just not there, there cannot be more than one big browser in the way this system works.

like I said, neglecting existing customers in an attempt to gain larger market share is certainly a play

the rest of your post seems to hinge on some judgement you think I made about that


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Whoa - you can't attack other users like this on HN, no matter how wrong someone is or you feel they are.

We ban accounts that post like this, as you surely know. We don't want to ban you, so please don't post like this!

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


I do not fundamentally disagree with you but it's also an extremely well known phenomenon that average non tech users, in the aggregate of millions of people, will click almost any "yes/I agree/continue/Next" step on a software installer or new user sign up workflow for anything, without reading the ToS. People blithly sign up for all sorts of cloud based things and services without understanding their full ramifications all the time.

I also wonder at the specific level of aggression and the tone of your comment which does not seem to be an appropriate response to that person's specific comment.

People such as you are describing and rightfully criticizing are knowingly taking advantage of that. Indeed it's how a lot of malware gets installed too.

The person you're responding to is pointing out that a lot of people at the surface level do only appear to care about the results. They put something into google translate, it works, they gets results they are pleased with, they don't put a lot of thought into the fact that the data is going to an external service. That's not an inaccurate description of how a lot of people use their computers these days. Look at how many people signed up for ChatGPT accounts and put the chatgpt app on their phones and talk to it all the time. That's the level of critical thinking a lot of non tech users have about their personal data.

The fact that people will click yes/agree/OK on almost anything is how Windows computers got Bonzi Buddy installed on them back in the day, and now it's continued into the cloud-everything era.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=21140.0...


> it's also an extremely well known phenomenon that average non tech users, in the aggregate of millions of people, will click almost any "yes/I agree/continue/Next" step on a software installer or new user sign up workflow for anything, without reading the ToS. People blithly sign up for all sorts of cloud based things and services without understanding their full ramifications all the time.

I would put a lot of that down to learned helplessness.

A lot of non-tech people tell me that "they already know" and that it is impossible to avoid. I have been told I am naive to think its possible to keep data private.


It's almost as if outside the tech bubbles most people don't understand the tech or implications. HN posters who live and breath in this space are so smug to pretend this esoteric knowledge about networking identifiers or fingerprinting is simple and that anyone can get it. These are the same people who will throw their hands up on any other esoteric topic and give up on it equally. For example, tech people so easily decry how "stupid" the law and legal jurisprudence is (because obviously if they don't understand it, it must be bullshit) but see zero irony in being smug pretentious assholes to regular people who didn't happen to major in computer science.

We shouldn't all have to be PhDs in law and jurisprudence to trust a legal system to look after our interests just like we shouldn't all have to be computer scientists to trust that technical stewards are not exploiting people's lack of knowledge.

Sick of this mentality. Oh these people are sheep idiots who don't understand the EULA euphemisms of "improved user experience " means adtech and behavioural tracking.


I think youre right. The least techy people I know where the first to ditch Mozilla when they started to see ads in Firefox.

Can you please not go on enraged tirades on HN? You've posted several fulminatory comments in this thread alone:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49729021

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49728539

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49728246

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49728175

and at least one more in another thread today. This is not what HN is for and it destroys what it is for. You may not owe Mozilla better, but you owe HN better if you want to participate here. This is only a place where people want to participate becuase enough people make the effort to raise the standards rather than drag them down. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


I love this site

PREACH

That's a lot of words and assumptions, when a single check of my posting history would show that I despise the HN bros as well. Jumping on a tangent about libertarianism when you could have simply called them retarded and saved a lot of time.

Anyways, no, I'm talking about the average person, the public worker, the person that thinks the internet is the funnily named Safari app, the elderly: they give zero fucks about it going to some service online. They used to search for Google translate before, whether or not it goes on someone's server, they do. not. care. You're not going to win them over with "it runs on your device". Their device is a crappy laptop that barely runs excel, and if they can offload computing, they will.


Any serious project will be using NullAway and annotating everything (or, indeed, using Kotlin).

Otherwise, yeah, you're still in for a world of pain.


"We replaced a somewhat fair income tax with the most unfair tax of all, VAT!"

Florida state sales taxes aren’t a VAT, and Florida is consistently in the top 5 for lowest taxed states in the country.

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